Comments on: We will all suffer if Cameron’s brand of Conservatism fails http://www.no2id.net/newsblog/2009-03/we-will-all-suffer-if-camerons-brand-of-conservatism-fails/ The latest on Identity Cards and Databases in the UK Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Geoff Cox http://www.no2id.net/newsblog/2009-03/we-will-all-suffer-if-camerons-brand-of-conservatism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-142726 Geoff Cox Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:09:28 +0000 http://www.no2id.net/newsblog/?p=1082#comment-142726 Much though we would like to hear something positive about civil liberties, it is unrealistic to expect "Call me Dave" to say much now. He has everything to lose and very little to gain. Whatever he says about civil liberties or the economy or foreign affairs can all be attacked from another perspective. He will sit on the fence for as long as he can whilst occasionally throwing some policy titbit to the press. There may be a strong pro-police agenda in the Conservatives which I do not like, but I do not believe there is support for a systematic undermining of general civil liberties like there is with Labour. Labour believes the Government always knows best, and that has lead them down the path that they have taken. This is largely missing amongst Conservatives. Much though we would like to hear something positive about civil liberties, it is unrealistic to expect “Call me Dave” to say much now. He has everything to lose and very little to gain. Whatever he says about civil liberties or the economy or foreign affairs can all be attacked from another perspective. He will sit on the fence for as long as he can whilst occasionally throwing some policy titbit to the press.

There may be a strong pro-police agenda in the Conservatives which I do not like, but I do not believe there is support for a systematic undermining of general civil liberties like there is with Labour. Labour believes the Government always knows best, and that has lead them down the path that they have taken. This is largely missing amongst Conservatives.

]]> By: Perry de Havilland http://www.no2id.net/newsblog/2009-03/we-will-all-suffer-if-camerons-brand-of-conservatism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-142721 Perry de Havilland Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:50:47 +0000 http://www.no2id.net/newsblog/?p=1082#comment-142721 You really think a weathervane like David Cameron can be trusted with civil liberties? So answer me this one... did he strongly support David Davies when he forced a by-election on the issue of civil liberties or was he clearly aghast? And even if he declaims occasionally on the issue like one of the 'good guys', might I refer you to his prior record on honouring his understakings when he has got what we wants? When he speaks to the Adam Smith Institute, he is pro-free trade and light government, when he speaks to a Guardian journalist, he is green, pro-regulation and 'socially aware'. It does not matter if you agree with him or not on a given policy issue but has his sudden changed stance on Europe once he won the Tory leadership vanished down the memory hole? A trust worthy man, eh? Oh please. The notion Cameron is meaningfully different to current shower is laughable. You really think a weathervane like David Cameron can be trusted with civil liberties? So answer me this one… did he strongly support David Davies when he forced a by-election on the issue of civil liberties or was he clearly aghast? And even if he declaims occasionally on the issue like one of the ‘good guys’, might I refer you to his prior record on honouring his understakings when he has got what we wants? When he speaks to the Adam Smith Institute, he is pro-free trade and light government, when he speaks to a Guardian journalist, he is green, pro-regulation and ’socially aware’. It does not matter if you agree with him or not on a given policy issue but has his sudden changed stance on Europe once he won the Tory leadership vanished down the memory hole? A trust worthy man, eh? Oh please.

The notion Cameron is meaningfully different to current shower is laughable.

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